FlyerTalk Forums - YR international surcharge (2025)

So these should be MUCH lower for intl flts booked NOW.:confused:
[My flt was booked months ago.]

They stopped calling them fuel surcharges years ago. It's a base that's not subject to corporate discounting and it's cheaper to change than filing new fares. What is the route, I've never seen YQ/YR that higher before?

JFK-ZRH-JFK (8/18-8/25) I know from other considerations that my flight(s) no longer exist. Officially DL has not yet notified me.

DATE AND FLIGHT STATUS CLASS SEAT/CABIN
JFK toto ZRH | Tue 18Aug2020 | DL 52 | OPEN Z 8A
ZRH toto JFK | Tue 25Aug2020 | DL 53 | OPEN Z 3A

Detailed Charges
Per passenger summary of air charges excluding taxes and fees
description amount currency
Air Transportation Charges
Base Fare: $900.00 USD
Carrier-imposed International Surcharge (YR): $1,300.00 USD
Taxes, Fees and Charges
Per passenger summary of air travel taxes, fees, and related charges. Per passenger total travel charges provided at end of table
description amount currency
United States - September 11th Security Fee(Passenger Civil Aviation Security Service Fee) (AY) $5.60 USD
Switzerland - Airport Passenger Security & Noise Charge (CH) $35.60 USD
United States - Transportation Tax (US) $37.80 USD
United States - Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service Fee (APHIS User Fee - Passengers (XA) $3.96 USD
United States - Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $4.50 USD
United States - Immigration and Naturalization Fee(Immigration User Fee) (XY) $7.00 USD
United States - Custom User Fee (YC) $5.89 USD
Summary of all charges for all passengers, including air-fare, taxes, fees, and other charges
description amount currency
Total Price: $2,300.35 USD

I'm surprised there isn't an extra fee for breathing air on the plane.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

It's not that crazy. As noted by xliioper it's just a way for DL to alter the fare without refiling or being subject to corporate discounts. For all intents and purposes it's the same as the base fare and you earn MQDs based on both the base fare and the YR (which further points to DL viewing them as one and the same for all practical purposes).

The $2300 for a J fare is pretty low so not sure I would care that much how they decided to divide the fare between those two buckets. I assume you caught a nice fare sale where they lowered the base fare significantly but didn't touch the YR so you ended up with a nice J fare but the breakdown just happened to skew to YR.

YR is considered a part of the ticket for MQD purpose. So it won't earn as little as you think.

Okay, I guess it's unique to J fares. YR on coach fares to Europe is currently $400 roundtrip ($500 for premium economy). There are currently 28-day advance purchase Z fares (basis ZN5X87D1) to numerous EU destinations from JFK available for travel from 8/15 - 1/10 with a base fare of $231 each way which results in an all-in price of around $1864 roundtrip (in the case of ZRH, other countries vary due to taxes). If YR was banned, they would just raise the base fares and so it really makes little difference in the end.

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during low season, it's not uncommon to see $1 fares + $200 YQ + $50 mandatory taxes/fees = $250 fares

as other people said, most airlines include YQ as part of the mileage calculation (if they based it on spend)

YQ can affect award tickets too, plus the other reasons mentioned above (not subject to discounting)

Carrier-imposed surcharges on revenue fares have nothing to do with the carrier-imposed surcharges on award tickets. There are no carried-imposed surcharges on one-way or roundtrip awards ex-US to the EU. They only come into play on ex-EU awards and are different than the surcharges on revenue fares.

I just saw a YR surcharge for the first time and came here for info. Seems odd that they would have two "fuel" surcharges (YQ and YR).

I got an extra lesson/spanking about the YQ surcharge this year from SWISS. RT ticket purchased in early Jan for travel in early April, LAX-EU for $2221

I rebooked the ticket in March for travel end of July. The fare portion dropped from $790 to $600 and the YQ increased from $1200 to $1300. Taxes increased by $1.50.

Seemed like I should get a refund of $88.50, but no. I had to pay the $100 YQ increase plus the $1.50 tax.

What's the circumstance of the rebooking?